Lets start the week off with a couple PCGS graded 1904 CDN 50 Cents - a rather scarce issue. m Remark: Reverse is Fine. Obverse is close to VF but not quite there. Overall this coin is at least Fine but not good enough to be VF. Coin is F15. m Remark: A coin that is AU+ must, at first glance, appear...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1899-Fifty-Cent ... SwAKxWU3mt

Remark: PCGS in an older holder. This coin is F12 (barely).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-50C-CANADA ... SwTapV4Id9

Remark: Obv is better than Rev. Obv is VF, Rev is F+. Would not have an issue with an overall TPG of VF20. VF30 is out of the question.

A decently graded coin in a older PCGS holder. Coin definitely not AU but better than VF.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1862-New-Brunsw ... SwAPlXhn6W

I alluded to this one (epic even for NGC) in my first thread above; m Remark: Although coin seems to have nice luster, the wear is apparent. In this case the computer pic actually helps discern the true nature of the overall wear. Nothing is bold and crisp (as per MS) on this coin. The date and lett...

Well that is disappointing - not your grade, but the pole

Grade this coin. Made it a pole question. Hopefully no one is inclined to go VF on this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122041876233?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

A bit more clarification on the linked 1903H. Coin is F/VG Agree obverse is Fine, but reverse is only VG (could be weak strike though which is unfortunate since it is thus far more susceptible aesthetically to ravages of wear) - therefore gave it a net VG10. If only the reverse was a wee bit better....

As promised, some more examples of TPG overgraded coins. Enjoy. m Remark: coin is F12 (but no higher than Choice Fine F15) m Remark: Very similar to previous 1871. Pics not the best but coins looks F15 (too much wear to be VF20). But NGC grader that assessed this one did a much better job than the p...

The 1903H in the below link has been incorrectly graded. The coin is only VG10 (better than VG8 but not good enough to be F12)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canada-1903-H-5 ... SwvUlWs6QE

Can only speak for CDN coins;

1903 is F15 (Choice Fine)
1936 is VF20

Thanks for your input Shylo. Your point #3 is the main problem with TPG now. They 'market' grade, which I strongly believe is just plain wrong and unethical. This was not the norm in the past which is why the era of the holder is important. Here is another 'market' graded coin - and a very poor 'opi...

This is my first message on this website even though I have been a member for some time. I thought I would delve into the topic of TPG, two of which NGC and PGCS are well known. In our world of financial engineering, data manipulation and blatant fraud and general lawlessness by both governments (pu...