1859 1 cent Which variety is this? # 5 or 9/6

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1859 1 cent Which variety is this? # 5 or 9/6

Postby COINSandWine » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:50 pm

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I am pondering if this is a DP N9 #5?
or is it a N9/6? :?:
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spent some time to figure it out and came to no conclusion.
can someone please help with this?
many thanks for your input.
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Re: 1859 1 cent Which variety is this? # 5 or 9/6

Postby Bill in Burl » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:46 am

Nice coin. It's a 9/6. There are 2 types (varieties) of the 9/6. I call yours the type 1. The type 2 is usually lacking anything inside the upper loop of the 9 and will not have the D/C at the first lobe of leaf 12. Both types will have the specific clean, precise break in the vine at leaf 2 and both show the underpunch between the tail and the upper loop of the 9 quite well .. slightly raised. The type 2 will have a nice 5/5 overpunch. Your type one has a very nice arc in the upper loop of the 9.

These are hard to find. Congrats.
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Re: 1859 1 cent Which variety is this? # 5 or 9/6

Postby COINSandWine » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:10 pm

Bill in Burl,
thank you for all this info.
Now I have to really look at what you said step by step. Maybe I have another within the lot I recently purchased. (several albums , with mostly QV coins out of an estate).I know there are some more varieties. :D
Very nice to find out that this coin is in fact not an every day coin.
Thank you.
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Re: 1859 1 cent Which variety is this? # 5 or 9/6

Postby Bill in Burl » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:30 am

The other marker for both types is that the C in Canada will have what I call "fire" in the top notch of the C. It is actually 3-4 slightly offset underpunches when the Obv working die was made. There are other reverses married to this Obv, but both of the 9/6's have the C that way.
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Re: 1859 1 cent Which variety is this? # 5 or 9/6

Postby COINSandWine » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:09 pm

Bill, thank you for that addtl info.
I thought I found another in the lot. But I guess when one is hunting the mind plays games.
I did find a few other interesting 1859s in the album which I can not ID. will post images tomorrow hopefully.
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