New CANADA 1882 H Cent variety?

[lhnumis]

Is the 1882 H imaged below a new variety? I have been unable to find an example with the D of CANADA as imaged below, (which appears to be entered at least three times along with an open bottom) in the references that are available to me. All thoughts welcome.

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[lhnumis]

Thought 3 additional images might help...

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[Bill in Burl]

Yes, these are relatively hard to find, but not scarce. I have seen quite a few of these. The 1881's and 82's started out using the 1876 dies and matrix/submatrices. The matrix that struck this die had pieces chipped and broken off parts of the letters. As such, C's, D's and some serifs are unclear or missing. On top of that, the dies were used for so long that the dies had to be repunched so that the legends were decipherable. The Mint floor worker who repunched your D made at least one repunch with a smaller-font punch that shows inside the D. Yours is a nice find and a keeper for sure. When we wrote the 65th edition of Charlton with the Vicky cent varieties in the back, we wanted to include yours, but we were restricted for space. It's worth about 8-10 times what a regular Obv 1 would be. The 81's and 82's are great to collect because there are SO MANY varieties with all the repunches, especially the N's, because ALL 1876's had single-serif N's and every 81 or 82 Obv 1 or 1a had to be hand-punched to put both feet on the N's.

[lhnumis]

Thanks Bill in Burl for your thoughtful and thorough analysis of the
’82 H subject coin. The history and production starting with the 76s was most interesting, and in particular, indicating that the Ns in Regina and Canada required hand punching of the feet to supply two serifs to each foot. I checked my copy of Charlton’s 65th edition and found that the image of the 82 H exhibited 2 serifs on each foot of the Ns.

However, I was pleased to see that the subject coin was absent two serifs on each foot of the Ns, which seemed to indicate that at least one die got through unscathed.

Many thanks once again for taking the time and effort to respond…it is much appreciated from Florida USA to Ontario Canada!
lhnumis

[Bill in Burl]

There were only a couple of the '82's that came through with single serifs on the N's. They are actually scarcer than those that have been repunched to correct them. You've got a nice coin.

[tour60]

The same as this one
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[rjd65]

Very nice example of this variety and excellent images. After seeing the post I decided to recheck my 1882 lot. Happily, I did have one example (only a VG) out of a reasonably randomly acquired lot of of about 100 x1882s currently under my care. That gives a very basic idea of its rarity. If one accepts the 1% scarcity figure, only about 40,000 were produced of the 4 million minted, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a bit less. Therefore, I would consider the 40,000 figure a max then, which falls within the typical average strikes per die pair range of 30,000 - 50,000 for the Victorian Cents minted up until 1894. After 1894, the strikes per pair started to improve drastically reaching between 60 - 100k. Minting machinery, die steel quality, and perhaps techniques improved.