1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

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Enyaw
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1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by Enyaw » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:13 pm

I found this 1982 voyageur "patched canoe" coin that is missing chrome plating similar to the 1986 variety.
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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by TBH » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:24 pm

Can't be missing plating, these coins are not plated, they are solid nickel.

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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by Enyaw » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:51 pm

I guess the Coins and Canada website is wrong then?
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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by Enyaw » Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:10 pm

And the Charlton 67th Edition?
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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by coinguy » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:20 pm

I’m not really into Nickel Dollars but I can’t see how it could be missing Chrome Plating when there is no chrome on a Nickel Dollar.
Is it possible that it is a lamination problem that can occur on solid alloys.

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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by Bill in Burl » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:45 pm

From the photos, those 2 areas looked "raised" not recessed to what a missing chrome would be. Since they made a different coin in '82-83, other than the commemorative, with the old voyageur Reverse, maybe they had some different planchets. Are those areas really raised and not recessed?
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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by coinguy » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:04 pm

Maybe we should get Roger involved with this one, he's the Nickel Dollar expert.
I'll see if I can contact him, not sure if he is away or not.

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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by Bill in Burl » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:16 pm

I'll contact him if you want ... we are friends and he gets me 200-250 nickel dollars every year for me to give as beer tips. He frequents this site. Don't forget Monday's Hamilton Coin Society meeting at the church. I'm bringing a surprise.
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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by coinguy » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:23 pm

I have already emailed him Bill but it wouldn't hurt if you did also, you know him better than I do.

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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by Enyaw » Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:37 pm

Thanks for your help in trying to figure this out. I have attached photos of the 1986 "patched canoe" using the same microscope and lighting as an example. In my opinion they have the same "texture".
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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by coinguy » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:36 am

Looking closer at this (as I said, I'm not into nickel dollars), perhaps when they say "missing chrome", they
are referring to the striking dies which have a chrome plating. If a part of this fell off somehow, it would
leave a small raised area on the coin. This would cause multiple coins to have the same appearance.

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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by CanuckCoinGirl » Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:45 pm

I do believe this is more likely... losing the top layer would not be of interest, but adding to it would be!

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Re: 1982 Voyageur "Patched Canoe"

Post by SPP-Ottawa » Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:03 pm

The dies are missing the chrome plating, not the coins. It chips or flakes off as the dies deteriorate. Therefore, the features appear raised on the coins.

This is the same phenomena as what Hans Zoell used to call "mortar set".

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