Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

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Dant5150
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Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Dant5150 » Tue May 04, 2021 8:16 pm

As I understand it, it depends on who one talks to that would consider this binary or not. I guess I am technically supposed to define this as a "fancy serial number", I would have preferred it being a "binary repeater" but, yeah, I am happy with it all the same! Kinda new to Banknotes so yeah.

If it were to go up for sale, what might you think it would garner?
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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by TBH » Tue May 04, 2021 8:41 pm

Google the definition of binary.
Ones and zeroes only.
Anyone who says otherwise is innumerate.

Dant5150
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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Dant5150 » Wed May 05, 2021 4:50 am

I don't think your argument is valid and trying to label anyone who believes binary means 1's and 0's only as an idiot is, offensive! Take your own advice and read the definitions which I've added for your convenience that you concluded as your evidence, as feeble as it may be... what does math and science have to do with a series of numbers on a note and, it's a good thing the words in our English language only ever mean one thing, right?!

innumerate
i-ˈnüm-rət
ADJECTIVE
marked by an ignorance of mathematics and the scientific approach

binary
[ˈbīnərē, ˈbīˌnərē]
ADJECTIVE
relating to, composed of, or involving two things.
"testing the so-called binary, or dual-chemical, weapons"
synonyms:
dual · duplex · twin · duplicate · matched · matching · paired · in pairs · complementary · coupled · twofold · binate
relating to, using, or expressed in a system of numerical notation that has 2 rather than 10 as a base.

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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by SP67 » Wed May 05, 2021 8:51 am

I think we need to use the formal definition of Binary Note from Charlton Catalog.
So only 0 and 1 can be use.

Source: Charlton Catalog
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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by coinguy » Wed May 05, 2021 10:36 am

I think part of the confusion is the difference between a binary number and a binary note.
Granted a binary number is a combination of two numbers but a binary note as far as being
a collectable note is a combination of 1 and 0.
I noticed on the other forum you posted this on, you got basically the same answer.
A binary note consists of 1 and 0.

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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Bill in Burl » Wed May 05, 2021 12:58 pm

So last year, we had a binary date (2020)? The actual definition of binary is "two digits", but it's normally understood to stand for, primarily, ones and zeros.
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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by CanadianBankNotes » Wed May 05, 2021 7:34 pm

Agreed binary note is 0's & 1's, I recently acquired these binary notes.
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Dant5150
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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Dant5150 » Fri May 07, 2021 10:27 am

the confusion is the difference between a binary number and a binary note.
While it is generally accepted that a Binary Note is comprised of 1's and 0's only, the argument that Binary can only means 1's and 0's because of the dictionary is false.

The people or persons who named it, named it wrong.
Anyone who says otherwise is innumerate.
Technically, for a fact, a Binary Note that is generally accepted as one is actually a Binary Code Note and any collector brazen enough to start calling other collectors idiots because Charlton says so is an individual who is a big part of the horrible problems in our world today, too vain and inflexible for their britches!
I think we need to use the formal definition of Binary Note from Charlton Catalog.
I can accept that all you professional collectors will not consider a two digit serial number note as a binary if it doesn't have any 1's and 0's, will you accept that whoever named this, named it wrong?

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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Dant5150 » Sat May 08, 2021 5:09 am

I noticed on the other forum you posted this on, you got basically the same answer.
I asked a question there yes, did I ask the same question here or did everyone not read what I wrote and y'all just want an excuse to try and knock me down and call me an idiot? Coin collectors maybe numismatically knowledgeable but challenge anything they say and you're lower than dirt in their eyes, which, I am rather embarrassed for them like this.

Cheers from Canada

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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Bill in Burl » Sat May 08, 2021 5:57 am

I agree with you Dant5150. Binary means 2 numbers (any 2), but most people interpret it as 0's and 1's, but that's all come about because of computers and code. For those of us around long before computers, 8899 was binary.
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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by SP67 » Sat May 08, 2021 7:06 am

Remember, we are talking about serial numbers.
In mathamatics, by definition, a binary numeral system (base 2) is only composed of 0 and 1, nothing else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix

That said, that doesn't mean that other SN with any 2 other numbers are not cool. They have less visiblity to collectors because they are not listed in Charlton as a "special serial numbers".

0 an 1 is really cool because it is a base 2 numbers. There's only 128 banknotes like this for each prefix.

8 and 9 (or any other numbers) is less cool because they are just 2 numbers from base 10. There's more than 5000 notes like this for each prefix.

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Re: Contentious Binary $50 2012 Canadian Note

Post by Dant5150 » Sun May 09, 2021 4:02 am

that doesn't mean that other SN with any 2 other numbers are not cool
It really doesn't matter who thinks this note is cool, I like it.
It doesn't really matter what I could get for this if I tried to sell it, I hadn't a plan to.
I asked a question about this note elsewhere and received an answer, I asked a different question here but no one replied.

I made an observation about what I found out about this note in my title of this post along within the body of text, you all just wanted to put your foot down and argue with me that in no way is this a binary and I'm a fool for challenging it.

I would have to say that very few of you actually read my post, you just wanted to fight and on my very first post here with the first response from a troll.

Some collectors are some very sad people, too high on themselves and their collections.

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